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Gillibrand: Debt Ceiling Deal Won't Help Jobs Crisis

U.S. senator voted against package; President Obama has approved deal.

As the U.S. Senate voted 74-26 today to approve the debt ceiling bill to avoid a government default, U.S. Sen Kirsten Gillibrand, D-NY, was among those who voted against the Budget Control Act.

Here's what she said after the vote:

“I strongly believe America must reduce its debt and rein in federal spending. Earlier this week, I supported over $2 trillion in spending cuts without additional revenues, and last December I voted to roll back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans that are blowing a hole in the deficit. However, I do not believe this proposal is a fair, well thought out, or balanced deal for our fragile economy or the millions of middle class families struggling to make ends meet.  

“The fact is, there is nothing in this deal that will address the significant jobs crisis we are facing. This deal, cut behind closed doors with zero transparency, is an unbalanced approach that cuts deeply into discretionary spending while being overwhelmingly stacked in favor of large corporations who exploit loopholes and the wealthiest among us. It is simply not in the best interests of the middle class and the larger economic recovery.

“I have not been in Washington long, but long enough to know it is broken. As I travel across New York, the people I meet are focused entirely on jobs and economic security for their families. Congress should take this charge as its own. I will continue to look for bipartisan ways to reduce the debt in a responsible way and create jobs in this struggling economy. The truth is, today we could have gone further in reducing America’s debt with a sensible compromise that both cut discretionary spending and raised revenues. It is unfortunate Congress missed that opportunity.”

In a statement this afternoon, President Obama applauded today's Senate vote. He has approved the deal.

"This compromise guarantees more than $2 trillion in deficit reduction. It’s an important first step to ensuring that as a nation we live within our means," Obama said. "Yet it also allows us to keep making key investments in things like education and research that lead to new jobs, and assures that we’re not cutting too abruptly while the economy is still fragile."

U.S. Sen. Charles E. Schumer, D-NY, said he fought to prevent cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. "...the bill contains none of those," Schumer said.

“Of greatest importance is that Democrats and Republicans came together to avoid default," Schumer said. "Had we defaulted on our debt we could have risked another recession and thousands more would have lost jobs. Unfortunately, our effort to close tax loopholes for corporate jets and yachts and companies that ship jobs overseas did not succeed but we'll continue to make the case."

Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 03:47 pm
Given that you've never responded to any information I've posted, there seems little point in posting more.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 03:49 pm
It is rather silly for people like "Yorktowner" and me to be posting on Patch, since it seems that pretty much everyone here is just spouting opinions and has no interest in actual communication or possibly learning something.
Aidan August 5, 2011 at 05:16 pm
Yorktowner, perfect condescension ... and imperfect economics.
Aidan August 5, 2011 at 05:18 pm
Yorktowner, you're not the economist you pretend to be.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 05:25 pm
Perhaps he wouldn't be so condescending if the right-wingers posting here weren't just repeating things from right-wing blogs, has some reasonable understanding of economics, and responded to posts that include facts.
For example, one person said, "The question to ask is WHERE DID THE STIMULUS MONEY GO? Almost 1 trillion, just disappeared." I suppose he read that somewhere, but in fact all of it is documented on the web. To make it easy for him, I posted two links that do just that. No response. If I found out that I was wrong about something, I'd acknowledge it. I have, in fact. None of the right-wing posters have ever done that. They either ignore it or change the subject. The obvious conclusion is that they're only interested in spouting ill-informed opinions and have no interest in anything that might contradict their world view.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 05:28 pm
The market responds to what might happen and what's going to happen, not just what has happened. So asking "What spending cuts - they haven't even taken place yet" shows an unawareness of how the market works.
jo August 5, 2011 at 05:52 pm
40% of the pork has not been spent..and what was spent produced very little success.. my union dying.. we are running in the red. shove ready a myth.. (nice way of saying a huge huge lie)...even the pres admitted the failure of shovel ready..what is being shoveled besides our money into some uknown abyss. .is cow doo at us..
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 06:04 pm
It's not an "unknown abyss". It's all documented and online.
I wonder if the many small businesses who received loans from the Small Business Administration would agree that it was wasted. Perhaps you believe that small business should sink or swim on their own, and so the $20 billion that went to small businesses was wasted.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 06:43 pm
I just looked up Westchester County. Completed projects received $99.7 million; projects more than 50% completed received $379 million, projects less than 50% completed received $106 million, and projects not started received $10 million.
Francis T McVetty August 5, 2011 at 07:02 pm
"And everyone who works there gets a check from the government, which we all know is a bad thing"., you are right and WE, the taxpayers are paying that check with OUR hard earned money.
Francis T McVetty August 5, 2011 at 07:08 pm
And yet,Meredith, the unemployment rate is a 9.1%. It hasn't worked and yet there is a call for more stimulus. That's like taking your money and dumping it down the toilet, because it is YOUR money that is going down the hole in the ground. Show me the jobs that this money, you point out, was distributed in Westchester. I didn't see the Weschester unemployment rate go down, have you?
voteliberalsout August 5, 2011 at 07:30 pm
You are right with one thing - the market does react to what may happen - and it knows nothing good is coming from this administration. You can type all the statistics you want but the bottom line is our economy is much worse with Obama and that you cannot refute. Now you can go back to liberalagenda.com for more left leaning talking points.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 07:48 pm
Great! We finally agree on something: that defense spending must be cut as part of the total cuts package.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 08:26 pm
That's because the stimulus was only big enough to save jobs, not create them in large numbers. In the fourth quarter of 2010, there were somewhere between 1.3 and 3.5 million people who would have been laid off if it weren't for the stimulus. So those people weren't collecting unemployment, didn't need food stamps or Medicaid, and were spending the money they were earning, thereby helping local businesses. (In the same quarter, GDP was raised by between 1.1 and 3.5 percent.)
Much of the money wasn't supposed to be used by the states to fill their budget gaps, but the states by and large found loopholes that let them do that. As to where it went in Westchester, you can read the list as well as I can. I've given you the link before, but once again, here's the link to the top 200 expenditures in Westchester: http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/locale/new-york/westchester
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 08:27 pm
If you have a problem with how the money was used in Westchester, then perhaps you should take it up with the recipients. Here's just a handful:
• Briarcliff Manor received $11 million dollars to help finance the construction of drinking water facilities and other related activities. • Scarsdale received $9 million dollars for highway infrastructure. • Bedford got $1.2 million in an energy efficiency block grant. • New Rochelle got $684 thousand for the same thing. • Westchester County received $24 million dollars for the construction of wastewater treatment plants. • The National Guard received $7.5 million. • The College of New Rochelle received $5 million for Pell grants. • Valley Oil got $1.6 million in a loan from the SBA, since they couldn't get a loan from the bank. • American Christmas, Inc., got $1.3 million for the same reason. How about looking at the facts instead of just repeating what you've heard? I've given you the link. Here it is again: http://projects.propublica.org/recovery/locale/new-york/westchester All you have to do is read.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 08:29 pm
I'm quoting facts, not talking points. Just because you don't like what the facts say doesn't make them untrue.
Tony T August 5, 2011 at 09:15 pm
A nice recital of where stimulus money went.....now how necessary were these projects and how many real jobs did these investments create. The stinulus was a flop....if it wasn't then why is the unemployment rate higher now then it was pre stimulus 18 months ago????
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 09:39 pm
I didn't "recite" where all of the stimulus money went. Since none of the right-wingers seemed willing to click a link to find out where the stimulus money went in Weschester, I listed where some of it. I don't imagine you're willing to put in the effort to see which projects were worth it, but if you prefer to express uninformed opinions, that's your right.
Of course, any project that was, in fact, necessary would have been paid for out of your local taxes instead of the stimulus money. But, hey, the stimulus was socialism, so it's a lot better that it come out of your pocket, right? As to the rest, I've already answered it. Look above.
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 09:45 pm
I'll even let you be lazy on one. Here's an article about the Briarcliff pump station: http://www.riverjournalonline.com/villages/briarcliff-manor/1960-let-the-water-flow-briarcliffs-new-pump-station-
It still requires you to read the article, of course.
Ross Revira August 5, 2011 at 09:54 pm
Just ask yourself this, if moving to the left was the answer why is the EU in worse shape than the US?
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 10:02 pm
If universal health care isn't the answer, then why does Germany have it, complete with private companies making money?
Tony T August 5, 2011 at 10:24 pm
Meredith,
First, whether it was sitmulus money or local tax money it came from the same pocket.....mine!!! Where do you think it comes from? Second, I read the article you provided. Thank you. I have copied the key sentence in the article "Around the year 2000 when Briarcliff’s current Village Manager, Philip Zegarelli, was the Mayor of Sleepy Hollow, Keith Austin (then Mayor of Briarcliff) came to Zegarelli with a problem. “Briarcliff Manor was on the New Croton Aqueduct (NCA) and New York City told the Village that it needed to change its water supply because NCA did not meet New York State nor Federal standards of purity. This issue had been kicking around for a long time and Briarcliff ended up being the last community to continue receiving its water from the NCA.....” More over excessive regulation and government interveniton at tge cost of the tax payer!
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 10:26 pm
Just ask yourself this, if moving to the right wer the answer, why is a country with a social market economy (one that seeks a middle ground between socialism and laissez-faire economic liberalism) the fourth largest economy in the world?
with the fourth largest economy in the world
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 10:28 pm
So you're fine with drinking unsafe water? That explains a lot.
I wasn't aware that all of the stimulus money came from your pocket. You must be very wealthy.
Tony T August 5, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Germany is a much smaller country, a homogeneous population and a medical/hospital system that was totally rebuildt after WWII.
Tony T August 5, 2011 at 10:33 pm
Meredith,
Where do you thinhk the stimulus money came from. It came from our collective tax money where else could it have come from.
Tony T August 5, 2011 at 10:35 pm
I haven't heard of any recent epidemics in the Westchester area for the past 100 years!
Meredith Lesly August 5, 2011 at 10:53 pm
Sorry, I've decided to stop responding to people who are too cowardly to use their real name.
Yorktowner August 5, 2011 at 11:36 pm
I can't get over how you people manage ti spend the entire day ranting. I don't even have time to read your rantings.
This thread is a perfect example of whats wrong with our system. A small ignorant group of people can band together and highjack the conversation. Sadly, in politics this results in incredibly naive and dumb laws that cause tremendous damage. Not that I'm pointing fingers at the Tea Party in particular. It's no different than Pat Buchanan's angry white men or Ross Perot's united we stand or countless other protest movements. And it will have the same impact as it's predecessors. I just hope it doesn't do too much more damage before it fizzles Enjoy your ranting...
Ross Revira August 6, 2011 at 11:24 am
Protest movements? . If it were not for protests we would still be British. Maybe you should read the "rants" you might educate yourself.

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